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BD: The Black people in the southern states. I am for change 100%. I am for being treated like anyone else on this planet by other human beings. Only treat me different if I become a criminal. If I mess up out there in society and defy the laws that have been laid down to protect all of us, then I should be taken out of society and be put where there are nothing but criminals. When they started making cotton picking machines all the people who were picking cotton started walking around the country with nothing to do.

SG:Is that why your folks moved from Mississippi to Chicago?

BD: I just had to go where they took me. I was too young to know. All I cared about was a lolly-pop, bag of peppermint candy, and let’s ride the train. I don’t know why they left. I’m glad they did leave because maybe I wouldn’t have had the opportunity that I had in Chicago.

SG: What about trade unions?

BD: : I hate to say this but it’s true. Trade unions are going to be our downfall. If a man you’re working for is going to be fair with you and not try to put everything in his pocket that’s one thing. But if he’s going to pay you anything knowing that you’ve got a family to feed and he’s making a profit, he can afford to give up some of that to his workers that makes them work better and turn out more. Now everybody feels like “What am I working so hard for I’ve got a union card. Cat can’t fire me. Fire me, shit he’s going to have to pay.” That particular person is not giving the employer a full day’s work therefore we are not turning out economically what we should be as Americans. We are bullshitting on the jobs and getting paid for stuff we’re not doing. Pretty soon the workers say they want more money and the man says “Hell with you I’m not giving you anymore money, I can’t afford it.” The workers say “Well we’re walking out then.” The next week the man’s putting a chain on the door, cat done sold out and left and went to Siberia. Now where’s your job? Why not come up with something that the union controls like four raises you get on the job and the only way you’re going to get them is if you get a contract. You get a contract to work another four years. Boom! You dig? You’ve got that contract for another four years. You’ve got that contract you can only default if you miss work for any reason but a natural act of God.

SG: Basic democratic rights. Like safe working conditions.

BD: Then I think we would be on our way to recovery form this economic mess. Everyone thinks that their boss owes them something. Nobody owes you nothing. America don’t owe you nothing, you owe this country for being free in the sucker in the first place. It’s not what your country can do for you, it’s what you can do for this country. We as Americans, and everybody else I know of, have to get off our ass and start smiling again and be happy that they’re in this sucker. Because I’ve been all over the world and there’s only two or three different places I could live besides here, that’s Australia, England and Canada. Even Germany is great except you have to have papers everywhere you go. Compared to other countries we couldn’t even be sitting up here talking about this right now. They would tear the door down. Immediately we are bad news, we are a germ within the system and would have to be dealt with. And we ain’t said nothing. Until we realize it, whether you like it or not, that shit is on your shoulders as a young man, and I don’t classify myself as no old man, but I’m out of reach of protecting America and the freedom that goes along with it. But if I have to, my black ass is ready to go. I dig being able to stand up on stage and play my guitar, and say anything I feel like saying and jump up and down and look at people smiling and laughing and carrying on, and having a good time. Nobody wants to get hooked up into this kind of thing . War. I wish that war was never invented. We as human beings are supposed to be civilized enough so that we can sit down and talk about it. Ask Russia what did we do to make you people build all those bombs to drop on somebody, if it ain’t for us, then who are you after? Who is it that you are going to drop all that shit on? If a cat’s stacking bricks in his backyard and he’s not building a house what’s he going to do with them? Throw them into your window if you’ve been arguing. And you’re going to sit by and not stack any? This is what makes the hostility.

I think Carter was great but I nicknamed him “Bible Shaker”. He was shaking the bible at Russia trying to tell them about the human rights trip which was great, but those people don’t want to hear it. Just like a spiritual person don’t want to hear me use four letter words. In other words, take our religion and go back to America with it. Don’t tell them what to do. Clean up your own house first. Meaning America needs to be cleaning up their act when it comes to human rights. The sooner we wipe out all this racial bullshit and realize we all are worshipping the same God the better. You think he’s happy about us fighting over him? Fighting is not love thy brother. There is a misinterpretation somewhere.

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