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SG: How do you deal with the industry and remain separate? They seem to offer all this gold and glory but is it really there?

BD: It’s all phony. I see people everyday going from bad to worse. I don’t necessarily knock people that smoke grass. But, I’m down on the pill-poppers and the dummy-dust. I call cocaine and all that other powdered crap dummy-dust. There are so many other things that you can do rather than sit around somewhere getting high and ruining your life. When you’re thirty five years old the world did it to you. You adopt this idea that society fucked you up. Society did nothing to you, you did it to yourself. It’s like a lot of youngsters standing around, talk shit, talk about what’s happening and saying “Man you know can have a hit of a...”. And I look at them and say “Hey get off your milk crate and go get yourself a job and try to save you some bread because it’s later than you think. You’re short time here and a long time gone. Try and make the best of it while you’re here. Why stand on the corner and try to preach to somebody that ain’t listening to you in the first place. You spend twelve years in school, another ten years bullshitting, and another ten years on street corners. Thirty years are gone already and you ain’t got but twenty more to get something. Because by the time you’re fifty it’s all starting downhill if you ain’t got your shit together. When you’re fifty years old everybody starts shying the other way. This is the way society is.

SG: : What about economics?

BD: The average working man really don’t know how this mess got this way. Why? Because his nose is to the grindstone from 8:30 to 4:30 and then on the bus fighting to get home, fall in the chair, sit down and read the paper, look at the TV, get in the bed, get back up the next morning, he’s back out there again, kids hollering at him, and his old lady is freaking him out. All of a sudden the cat is forty five years old, maybe a couple of thousand dollars he done scrapped to sneak and save, good education and a good trade. You take this guy with five kids and another with no kids, maybe he’s not married, they’re both working at the same factory. The one with no kids has got a little more going upstairs so he moves up to be an executive. The other guy is still a laborer but he has got the trade. The executive has to come down and tell him, they both got the job at the same time, that he moved up because he took something else in school which made him a step higher with his trade. Both are considered laborers but one is on a different level. Just like you take two saxophone players or two guitar players, and I know cats out there that play guitar way better than I do, they make me put my shit up! And they don’t have one thing: Showmanship. You got that showmanship and if it clicks with the public you got it made. If it clicks with the boss you got it made. The boss is looking for production. When I hit the stage I try to produce the best I know how. That’s what I try to give people. I don’t go on stage to show off a suit, or a new square guitar, I go up there to do the best I know how with whatever I got to work with meaning other musicians and that’s all I can do. If I have some good cats working with me that are smiling and jumping around on stage I’ll destroy the place. Because energy comes out. It’s the same for the dude working in the factory. If he shows the boss energy that cat’s going to go to the meeting and say “We need to put him up on the third floor, cause that guy there can get some work turned out. I believe he’ll make it cause the people up there will like it and they’ll work together.” You put a shitty boss where people don’t like him the work comes out shitty. That’s one of the things that are wrong, the product comes out bad because people are trying slave drive folks today. That’s all gone. Slave driving is over.

Computers sounded like a great idea, in fact it was. When they introduced computers into the US as a new machine that was going to revolutionize everything it sounded great and everybody looked for the day when they didn’t have to work so hard because this machine was going to do the work of ten men. But they weren’t thinking about where those ten men were going after the machine took their jobs. I don’t know how to run this country, I’ve said this quite a few times, but it don’t take a genius to tell when something’s fucked up.

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